Saddle - Brooks B17s (short), Special Color:Antique Brown but telling us you have

but telling us you have a Trek Whatever from the '90s or a SunTour shifter from Whenever doesn't provide sufficient information to determing whether these will work

These are Spencer's favorite cantilevers

and especially one who rides in the rain a lot

To the swinging and the ringing

Saddle - Brooks B17s (short), Special Color:Antique Brown but telling us you haveB17 Special Short This is the fancy and smaller "short" version of the Brooks B17. This is a Special because the lower edge of the side flap is hand beveled (skived), and the rivets holding the leather to the frame are 13mm wide copper and set by hand with a hammer, rather than small steel and machine set. Also the steel frame and rails have a brass like chrome finish instead of a black powder coat. The difference is cosmetic, and if you like the